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gtate — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:39:12 -0000

always superfly-ass korean-polish new jersey punk girl with a fetish for chrissie hyndes and missy eliott and went to oberlin? if that aint black enough for ya,TNC nothing is. karen o, santigold and MIA are the only rock stars right now. appropriately enough in the michelle obama era.

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sv — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:32:36 -0000

Love you for posting this bro. ("bro"!) I'm a groupie wannabe for her because she is such a rock star. You have to bring SOUL, see. You're right, she makes me want to sing, too. You dig it because it's rock and roll; if you grew up in this country, it enters your bloodstream.

I think you might see this music as having 80's roots, because of the synth and the drumming style, but the vibe is really different. The above commenters' references to Souixsie and PJ Harvey are insightful.

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Andy — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:56:17 -0000

I liked Show Your Bones more than the previous stuff too. Haven't checked out the new one yet, but it's on my list!

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nina s. — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:24:06 -0000

I never really got into YYYs because when Maps came out, I thought it was a good song but I couldn't get past the fact that Karen O sounded like a somewhat inferior Siouxsie to my ears. But now that they have a deeper catalog to dig into, I think I should give them another try.

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rassia — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:42:14 -0000

Not sure about the rest of The Strokes, but Fabrizio Moretti joined up with Binki Shapiro and Rodrigo Amarante from Los Hermandos to do a side project called Little Joy: http://www.myspace.com/littlejoymusic.

Saw them in Amsterdam a few weeks ago, in a tiny venue (about 250 people?). Top night. Sweet, festive and effortless: sounds like summertime. Highly recommended.

In other news, Fabrizio Moretti is mindbendingly hot.

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Tadatsune — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:31:37 -0000

TNC,

What is you opinion on PJ Harvey?

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Hicks — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:20:23 -0000

I get your attraction. However, may I suggest Johnette Napolitano, Pound for pound Johnette makes Karen O sound anemic. Yeah, I know. One man's ceiling... But you want to hear someone who can blow, check her out...either solo or with Concrete Blonde. Girl can blow.

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Reality Man — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:48:24 -0000

Karen O just has to be my favorite lead singer out there right now. She has this cool combo of art school geek and "fuck off" punk that is just too cool. Is Is is the only EP I've ever bothered paying money for.

It's also great to see a biracial Asian woman born and partially raised abroad make it in music today in the US.

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Reality Man — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:40:49 -0000

Fun fact: the director of the "Pin" video is plays the sister's fiance in "Rachel Getting Married."

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uvasig — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:05:05 -0000

Digging it, especially since they shot it in my old home town of SF. Looks like most of it was shot in North Beach. Good stuff.

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lt — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:39:09 -0000

You really need to check out N.A.S.A. they have a track with Karen O and the ODB on the same track, David Byrne and Chuck D on the same track. Its pretty f**king awesome.

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Chris Knight — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:34:08 -0000

Siouxsie & the Banshees. Sure, not as scream-y, but her voice and look is fairly close.

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AJ — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:07:39 -0000

Never been a fan of recorded YYY's... though I can see how they would be pretty awesome live.

TNC since you like this 80's inspired music and you are clearly a huge nerd you should check out the Metronomy video for their song Radio Ladio. It is top notch in both departments.

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Neil — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:33:50 -0000

I was introduced to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs by "Pin", I fell in love and never looked back.

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rufus — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:37:13 -0000

While I'm not a big fan of the YYY, I have to admit that live they really manage to bring the fire power. I remember seeing them a few years ago at the Fillmore in SF (along with JSBX and Liars) and really being impressed with Karen O's vocals. Maybe I'm wrong here but I'm definetely getting a Siouxsie Sioux vibe off of her.

I was pretty much ostricised as a teen. At home my parents would deride my choice of music (It's just a phase)and at school the other black kids would make fun of me for rocking the Jethro Tull on some days and Wall Of Voodoo the next. It's cool though. I run into old classmates every once in a while who will confess that secretly they were blasting The Smiths or Cocteau Twins when no one was looking.

Any thoughts on Dirty Projectors?

Oh yeah, "Maps" is an awesome song. Overplayed yet still awesome.

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Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:17:07 -0000

I actually think the Is Is EP is the best thing the Yeah Yeah Yeah's have done, but it doesn't get much love.

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Dan Fox — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:13:46 -0000

I hear you about the Arctic Monkeys. They tried to capture this 60s surf sound mixed with "whatever people say I am..." it worked, but to an extent it's not who they really are and I wonder if they defined themselves to narrowly. I still love Favourite Worst Nightmare--I listened to the first 5 tracks nearly incessantly for 2 weeks. But it didn't have the same story telling vibe. We'll see though.

Also, and maybe this makes me crazy, I don't know, but when I was first introduced to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs by "Maps" (I know, that makes me uncool) I didn't want to hear anything else from them, and essentially didn't for 6 months after. I thought the song was perfect and they could never reach that again. I'd never heard anything like it, and I was terrified they'd disappoint me. Thankfully, I summoned the courage to go on :)

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Neil — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:00:19 -0000

I love the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, but I definitely liked their older albums better. I've always been way more punk rock than new wave. Still love it though. I think if almost any other band made this song I wouldn't have liked it nearly as much. There is something magnetic about Karen O.

Hell, I even love the song she made for that Adidas commercial in '04. It's haunting and I still listen to it.

I think she's proof that Soul>Power. Truly feeling yourself and the music your making means more than all the technical talent in the world.

As for the strokes, they're problem is that they never really improved. They still make good albums (I find them the perfect music for riding on the train home after a night album) with at least 2 truly great songs, but they never achieved the greatness that their first album portended. A debut album that is that solid and has those 2 or 3 songs that are truly great makes you think great things are coming. Except each subsequent album has been at the same level. They move forward musically but the strength of the albums is stagnant.

I worry about the Arctic Monkeys. That first album was about as good as a debut album can be. Just gangbusters start to finish. They didn't have the smartest songs and they weren't the most talented kids on the block, but there was something special in every last one of those songs. They're second album was good and it wasn't a step backwards musically, but it was a step backwards in terms of soul. None of those songs had that special thing where you found yourself singing them to yourself walking down the street hours after you last heard it or maybe even days. The first album had that. So for me - i want to see them materialize into something truly special, but i'm not sure that can happen. I mean, it seems like they caught lightening in a bottle, but given their youth, who knows what will happen in time.

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deva — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:58:36 -0000

Always love the YYYs, though I thought Fever to Tell was vastly superior to Show Your Bones. This album seems more electro-pop-ish. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but what I loved about the YYYs debut is how the 3 piece band could just hold it down.

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deva — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:56:06 -0000

YES! And it's the awesome sauce.

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Ernie p 23 — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:52:35 -0000

Nah Nah Nah, That sounds like Kate Bush. You gotta go back further into "Whiteness"

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matt — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:25:01 -0000

I don't have much love for the Strokes these days, sorry. I like hearing them, but not listening to them, if you know what I mean. Maybe it's too many years in Brooklyn, but their above-it-all-looking-down-on-you attitude feels old news and fake and lazy to me.

anyway, it's nothing like the YYYs, where I think about their music often when not listening to it. "Modern Romance" might have been the track to do it for me, I just really liked the phrasing of "fo get strong" and "there is no/this is no/modern romance"

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DaveinHackensack — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:52:47 -0000

"Derwin already has it."

One of my friends growing up was a black kid who played guitar and was into Def Leppard. His name was Delwin. You mentioning this Derwin just reminded me of him. One time Delwin and I went to visit a friend of mine, whose mother happened to be British. We waited at the door while she called out to her son in her British accent, "David and Darwin are here".

"David Bowie meets the Pretenders?"

The singer does sound like Chrissie Hynde a little.