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Christine — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:02:07 -0000

It makes me worry that the GOP has something truly deviant up its sleeve -- like maybe some "tragedy" will befall Palin, and McCain will scoop up votes when, close to election day, American grief will come pouring out on behalf of the damaged ticket. McCain could pick someone decent and the country will sigh a great sigh of relief. The story of the day would be McCain's valiant carrying on in the face of adversity, while Obama would get virtually no press. Lord, when did I get this cynical?

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Dan — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:37:58 -0000

Sorry about all that.

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Dan — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:29:18 -0000

I wonder if we're getting played. Expectations for her debate performance are now about as low as they could possibly be. If she forms a complete sentence or Biden slips up at all, it's going to look like a victory for her.

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Betty Chambers — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:55:08 -0000

What's new pussy cat? Ahhh yes, I remember back when she was introduced as the deadly and scary "Barracuda." So much verbiage spent building up this small town chick-chick. She sounds frightened. She ought to be, the poop is sprinkling onto the fan and splatters will soon follow...

McCain's folks has to keep the lipsticked pig under wraps, 'cause a city wise 12 year old could take her on and win.

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Deborah — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:53:07 -0000

What is there left for Tina Fey to do?

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Glaivester — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:42:29 -0000

She just a bag of catch-phrases, "politics as usual," "bipartisan action," "the taxpayers," "shoring up our economy," "reigning in spending."

Whenever I hear the word "bipartisan", I am reminded of this story:

"In America, we have a two-party system," a Republican congressional staffer is supposed to have told a visiting group of Russian legislators some years ago.

"There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party."

He added: "Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called bipartisanship."

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Josh — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:11:20 -0000

Remember the scene in Good Will Hunting where Ben Affleck was interviewing with a law firm that thought he was Matt Damon's character? That's what this interview reminds me of.

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Tessa — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:45:09 -0000

The words that come out of her mouth are completely nonsensical. I can't follow her blathering. Healthcare? Huh? I thought we were talking about the bailout? Huh?

I wonder what foreign leaders think of her. Who could take her seriously? Actually, I hope the answer to that question is: Nobody.

It's really stopped being funny. She needs to step down from the nomination. Seriously.

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Nausicaa — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:22:33 -0000

But for real, when it comes to Wu, it's all about the C.R.E.A.M.

Just watched this now that I'm home. Gotta love Palin lamenting the way partisan politics stands in the way of progress. I'm pretty sure I saw another clip, from this very same interview, where Palin mocks Obama, suggesting he'll 'put his finger to the wind' while looking for a solution.

Aside from being partisan, I want to second other posters' comments about what a joke it is to have this mental raisin, whose only insight after the monumental surprise of being offered the VP spot was not to blink, making fun of Obama. Really Sarah - no self reflection?

I honestly can't fathom how someone in her position isn't positively shitting bricks at the prospect of being in this deep and so far over their head.

A-mazing.

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rikyrah — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:55:24 -0000

NOBODY Black, who was this fucking stupid, would even be acknowledged.

I realize now why she bothers me so.

It's one thing to know about White Privilege. It's another thing to have it shoved in your face in the form of Sarah Palin.

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Liza — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:16:01 -0000

What is most amazing is that people are actually trying to find meaning in what she says. This woman spews talking points that have gotten jumbled in whatever she uses for a brain and that is what comes out of her mouth. There is very little relationship to the question asked and the response.

She makes Ahmadinejad sound like a world class orator. She is an embarrassment and when is she going to be called out for what she is?

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Asher — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:05:41 -0000

Yeah... fewer verses can be a good thing when it means you don't have to listen to Cappadonna and Masta Killa. I also never liked the beat.

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Chris — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:00:43 -0000

How is it possible that every new clip that comes out is actually worse than the previous ones? I keep thinking she has finally hit rock bottom, only to be amazed the next time she opens her mouth.

Oh, and can we please get some of this at the VP debate: huh?

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Liza — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:55:23 -0000

No, Blue Moon, you are just wrong that this woman should ever have been anything other than a hockey mom.

America deserves better. When I hear this woman speak, I cannot even believe she is a vice presidential candidate. It is as though the GOP has finally decided that the president and vice president HAVE to be fools, so that the neo-conservative think tanks and the corporations can rule unhindered.

God help us. I can't even believe what is happening anymore.

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Varneer — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:53:56 -0000

@Libertarian, re: trade quote --- I think it's already been pointed out in various ways, but it was the way she said it that jumped out at me --- she sounded like she'd read the idea in a textbook while cramming in the previous two days. The quote on paper or screen doesn't look as bad as it sounded coming out of her mouth.

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Blue Moon — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:39:16 -0000

Even though I am going to vote for Obama, I find myself wanting to like Palin. We disagree on a lot of things -- mostly to do with the role of government, but I like her energy and agree with her on a few social issues. She just is not up to this right now, and frankly may never be. She is the rare politician that I think would do better by being in the Senate rather than being a governor. One thing the Senate teaches you is to learn just enough about a wide variety of topics to be able to bs about them for 2 minutes.

There are two visual images that come to mind when I think of her:

1. Watching someone who can tread water but can't swim. You keep waiting for them to at least doggie paddle or freestyle, but they just tread water.

2. Sarah Palin, fittingly enough, is a point guard that can't shoot, can't dribble to her left, and only knows 3 of the plays. She can get her team fired up, and the coach likes her though. She reminds me of Jason Kidd in the half court -- everyone plays 5 feet off him because he can't hit long range shots. Obama and Biden just need to remind themselves though that if they get too close, she can drive right by them. Just back off and let her turn it over.

As someone said above, you can't learn this stuff in 8 weeks. I think she'll drown in the debate with any help from anyone. Maybe in 2016 after a term or two in the Senate.

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Stacy — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:24:09 -0000

Nah, not as many verses, although all of them are strong. The chorus is kind of cheesy, too.

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Asher — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:20:31 -0000

I think I'm the only one who likes Reunited much more than Triumph.

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Liza — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:20:19 -0000

Couric went much too easy on Palin. When you are asked a question, and you answer with rambling, unfocused, and very close to meaningless half sentences, you really should be called out. This woman is a vice presidential candidate so when is she going to be scrutinized at the level that office deserves?

If these are the kind of qualifications that are acceptable for a vice president, then we may as well just have some kind of national lottery to decide who the president will be in the future and it should be open to everyone over 18 who is not institutionalized. Palin proves we are all potential presidential candidates, especially me because I've lived near the Mexican border for 30 years so I have some serious foreign policy experience.

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Libertarian — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:13:32 -0000

I agree, she is seriously over rehearsed and is so afraid of saying the wrong thing that she rambles through all the talking points at the same time.

They need to rise or fall on the woman they chose as VP and should let her be herself whatever that brings.

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JC — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:07:38 -0000

The thing is, I'm pretty sure she can do better than this. Even a couple of pre VP Alaskan interviews, you get a MUCH better sense from the woman.

I think the McCain "preppers" for her, are basically ruining her - mainly for the reasons that she doesn't say something crazy, but what has ended up happening then, is they've produced a fearful, automaton, spouting vague talking points.

Emotionally, she is just afraid, afraid, afraid, and she looks for her talking points to answer the questions.

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Stacy — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:43:41 -0000

I apologize, my grammar is terrible today. Palin's rubbing off on me.

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Stacy — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:37:40 -0000

I'm pretty sure 'Triumph' is in my top five favorite hip-hop song of all time. Inspectah Deck's opening verse is one of my favorite ever as well...

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Nausicaa — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:21:48 -0000

"Wu Tang. Wu Tang.

Olympic torch burnin, flame so sweet, the thrill of victory, the agony, defeat..."

Beat me to it Stacy. I saw this post at work, and once I saw the title I immediately started tapping my foot and nodding my head to the beat. One of the best tracks ever.

Then I thought, Binary Star Waterworld Too. The saga continues, it only gets better!

Every interview Palin has given so far is another brick cemented into Obama's road to the White House. She is so transparently clueless in these interviews. From day one, I knew this pick would be disastrous for McCain. The woman IS one of the Christian hockey moms that surrounded me growing up in small town Leave-it-to-Beaver-land (thanks Bubs). That truly frightens me.

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MoeLarryAndJesus — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:21:35 -0000

Sarah Palin on the first Wednesday in November, 2008:

Gosh, it's so grody that we lost, John McCain, but can I keep all these neat dresses and pantsuits that John McCain's campaign bought for me?