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Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

DaveinHackensack — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:45:54 -0000

BTW, speaking of Stanley Crouch reminds me of something. Years ago, he and some (Southern?) white writer, whose name I forget, where commissioned by the NY Times Magazine to ride a boat down the Mississippi together in some assignment with allusions to Mark Twain's work. I forget all the details, but what I remember is that the white guy remembered using the "N-word" years back and used that as the jumping off point for some long, introspective essay. Crouch mailed in something much shorter and, if I remember, correctly, bailed early and got off the boat before the scheduled destination.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

Juba — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:54:20 -0000

Oh! And Whitlock is a liar--making up facts about his alleged weekend in Vegas for All Star Weekend a few years back that was short on verifiable detail but long on hypocritical condemnation of...

...wait for it...

...young black "gangsta wannabe" athletes run amuk yadda yadda...

Later for that crumb. Pardon my passion.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

Juba — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:52:54 -0000

Whitlock makes it a racial issue by constantly attacking any Black athlete or sportswriter who doesnt adhere to his self-righteous moral code (which he himself of course doesnt adhere to either.)

He has a long string of Black athletes he has thrown under the bus, the most glaring being Sean Taylor, blaming the victim for his "thug lifestyle" even before the facts came out. Then he threw Scoop Jackson under the bus for no reason other than jealousy over his relationship with Ralph Wiley.

I have no respect whatsoever for Whitlock. Because he has no respect whatsoever for the rotating pool of young Black athletes he fires off poison pen columns about, without calling them to get their side mind you, without putting it into context, without offering some kind of objective background...

Dude, please dont get me started on that third-tier market sellout.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

DaveinHackensack — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:43:45 -0000

You're making a racial issue of this when Whitlock didn't.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

Juba — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:22:05 -0000

It was interesting for me if, "Stop attention whoring and ego-preening at the expense of a dead man's memory" is interesting.

Coates showed some sensitivity and still managed to ask the tough questions about McNair. Whitlock on the other hand has never met a Black athlete he isnt willing to brutally throw under the bus with utter contempt so long as he gets a few "attaboys!" on his back by Speaking Truth To Negroes.

Whitlock is a "Whussamatta bawss? WE SICK?" all day. And he revels in it.

He's like Stanley Crouch without the chops, smarts and willingness to say it to your face and take it outside to shoot a fair one if you dont like it.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

DaveinHackensack — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:20:51 -0000

Ta-Nehisi,

If you haven't seen it yet, you might Jason Whitlocks take on this interesting. I just spent five minutes trying to find the link to post it here, but I don't see it now. He writes for the K.C. Star, but I think I read his column on Real Clear Sports.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

bertie — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:25:01 -0000

I thought it was pretty obvious and most commenters responded in universal terms. It seems only 1 or maybe 2 posters took "brothers" to mean black men only. But those commenters seemed to have a specific agenda/point of view and weren't really commenting on your post as it was written. Even though I didn't agree with your conclusion, it was a very thought provoking piece. Keep up the good writing--the game needs you.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

Liza — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:19:06 -0000

Oh, yeah, if walls could talk...

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

Rey — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:57:49 -0000

I took brothers to mean all dudes- Besides someone in the previous thread on McNair brought up the Phil Hartman situation, I forgot he went out the exact same way. The lesson to learn from this is when trying to break out of a delicate relationship situation, don't take the passive aggressive route like, saying something f*ed up about how this relationship is done and then turning back over to go to sleep or passing out drunk. Break the news to the dumpee while you are backing out of the door and headed to an undisclosed location. Just sayin'...

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

LarryGeater — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:56:47 -0000

Your meaning was completely obvious to me, and your vernacular sends me to teh Google quite often. That is a common way to use the word in the Soouthern Baptist culture grew up in. I quit using brother that way when I left the church because arround here its use is a way to identify the churched.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

Fe — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:07 -0000

Seem obvious even for me, the blog title was "The GIRLS Step up To This ", However WOMEN are moving (Sorry to say) in the same direction of men. We are not as monogamous as we portray ourselves. Check out the studies, Women who have a higher education tends to have more than one male partner and of course in the same breath women who smoke and drank also have more than one male partner. We are just plain sneaky.

Re: Steve McNair And Postracialism

TG — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:20:55 -0000

I knew what you meant. To follow up on your intial post yesterday --Hey man, this domestic relationship thing is a mixed bag. Undoubtedly some women do need protection from bullies and jerks, but in reality our laws and courts are designed to protect women -- "equal protection" and "due process" be damned. There are *some* women who lie and cynically game the system and play the cops and the courts for fools. But you're not supposed to say this.