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Re: Open Thread At Noon

sporcupine — Wed, 06 May 2009 23:51:36 -0000

Colbert hits York: "plus or minus black people"!

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Incertus(Brian) — Wed, 06 May 2009 14:13:19 -0000

By the way, I'm sure that the "go for yours" comes from somewhere else, but when I read it, I get "Gonna Make You Sweat" from C&C Music Factory in my head. There--I've humiliated myself for the day.

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nickzi — Wed, 06 May 2009 13:46:09 -0000

Yes, I think this is a case where Obama is going to have to bite the bullet and go for uniform prosecutions of torturers. Either that, or we free the Abu Ghraib evildoers. You can't have selectively "guilty" torturers while "innocent" torturers go free without a trial. That would be unethical, to put it mildly, and create a hideous legal anomaly.

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Incertus(Brian) — Wed, 06 May 2009 13:41:36 -0000

Yeah, I've been bothered by that argument as well. The injustice in that case has nothing to do with whether or not Graner et al deserve to be in jail, because they do--the injustice is that they're the only ones to be in jail over this mess.

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nickzi — Wed, 06 May 2009 13:09:38 -0000

How long before Favre melts down and leaves Minnesota vowing vengeance against all things Viking? At this rate, Brett will play for another 30 years and vow vengeance against each NFL team in turn!

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Joel — Wed, 06 May 2009 12:54:14 -0000

Brett Favre to the Vikings, it looks like.

Favre was about on par (overall) with Tavaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels last year, but with some upside. I guess it will help the vertical aspect of Minnesota's offense to have a strong-armed quarterback.

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nickzi — Wed, 06 May 2009 12:27:09 -0000

I think the most repellent moment in recent days has been the attempt to declare the Abu Ghraib torturers "innocent" because everyone else was doing it, and anyway we had orders, thank you, sir! I do believe that when prosecutions come, they will do so in part because the Abu Ghraib critters set the precedent.

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Dan Fox — Wed, 06 May 2009 12:21:06 -0000

You've essentially hit on the most frustrating part of this issues coverage: why is waterboarding the poster child for torture? Don't get me wrong, it is torture, but its pretty far down on the list of atrocities committed under Bush/Cheney interrogation. The ICRC report indicated that one prisoner had his genitals repeatedly slashed with razors. And by repeatedly I don't just mean multiple times in a session; there were several sessions of this. Why aren't we focusing on this incident and others? Why even open up the debate? This is explicit, 100%, no doubt, torture

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Dredd — Wed, 06 May 2009 12:15:00 -0000

Have you read the new report that many were tortured to death?

That ups the ante doesn't it?

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/05/subornation-of-torture-murder.html

The torture memos could link to murder now.