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muzz al atesta — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:07:52 -0000

What You Don’t Know About Gaza NY Times Op-Ed

Rashid Khalidi

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/opinion/08khalidi.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

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Capn America — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:35:25 -0000

sgwhiteinfa: same guy. I think the best proof of Walt's thesis is how this one guy, some random professor, attracted so much hate at the end of the campaign season. While Joe "Obama may kill Israel" the Plumber was treated with respect.

Thanks for putting up this topic so we can have a debate here, TNC, as Ross/Goldberg don't have comment sections and thus cannot be held accountable for their exaggerations.

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sgwhiteinfla — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:17:13 -0000

muzzy

Thanks for the clip. It was too long to watch the whole thing all at once but also very very interesting so I will get back to it. BTW is that the same Khalidi that the Rethugs were trying to smear Obama with?

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muzz al atesta — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:00:32 -0000

and Tony Judt

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muzz al atesta — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:59:12 -0000

as far as i know the Atlantic had commissioned Walt/Mearsheimer to write an article on the Israel Lobby and then refused to publish it.

The article was then published in the London Review of Books

you can see a very interesting debate with John Mearsheimer, Shlomo Ben-Ami, Martin Indyk, Rashid Khalidi and Dennis Ross here:

http://www.scribemedia.org/2006/10/11/israel-lobby/

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DougEMI — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:44:01 -0000

I had never read anything by Walt until yesterday, a different posting of his was linked at Memeorandum about slashing defense spending and how unlikely that was. If conservatives want to be for small government, you have to be for small goverment, starting with the Military. Seeing how I doubt that even liberals will cut the military, I don't see most conservatives doing so.

What I do see is that Republicans who were isolationist when Clinton was President will return to that position now that their guy is out.

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sgwhiteinfla — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:57:54 -0000

Thats a pretty good back and forth and I have a strong suspicion that Ross and Larison will be continuing that conversation for some time. Because Larison went last it kind of seems that he has the upper hand in the argument for now but I look forward to seeing Ross' answers to his critique. I haven't read the Israel Lobby book they are speaking on but it seems that the Atlantic played some kind of role in whether the book was seen as legit or not. Do you have any other background information on what went down with that? Because Ross says it was just lousy while Larison says maybe it wasn't perfect but it was far from lousy.