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Anuncie — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:21:22 -0000

Thanks for this article, very interesting, i like this.
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sv — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:58:39 -0000

"I want my country back," she says. How has she had it taken from her? All I can think is that by being governed by a Darkie, she's lost it, and she doesn't even realize that's why she believes such a preposterous theory. It just doesn't make sense why his birth certificate would be faked and secretly inserted into the Hawaii Dept. of Health records. Okay I am gonna stop even thinking about this. sigh.

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sv — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:45:09 -0000

agreed.

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sv — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:43:07 -0000

factory farms are awful and i don't eat their products, but i don't think they are tantamount to the enslavement of human beings.

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sv — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:38:55 -0000

The difference also involves the fact that Obama has only been president for six months, and (a) hasn't allowed a disastrous terrorist attack to occur on our soil, (b) hasn't invaded a foreign country under false pretenses, besmirching our national honor and getting a quarter of a million non-enemy people killed, (c) hasn't further stained our honor by torturing false confessions out of innocent people like some cowardly communist dictator. I guess I'm a stickler for details.

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sv — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:31:42 -0000

Every time I'm in a bar with his show on I receive further confirmation that Lou Dobbs is a fucking idiot.

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Tel — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:27:26 -0000

"even if she had for some crazy reason traveled to Kenya to give birth to him."

For God's sakes don't let Sully get ahold of that, we'll never hear the end of it. ;)

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eric k — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:18:23 -0000

There is a big difference.

Bush Derangement Syndrom (tm) was mostly based on his you know lying us into a war. People were actually upset about something that he did.

The right wing fringe started freaking out before the election (and how fringe is El Rusho for example?, I don't remember any democrats having to apologize on bended knee for criticisizing the fringe left)

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eric k — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:14:00 -0000

technically it woudl be 8/10ths:-)

The black half is 3/5th and the white half is 5/5th, 3/5 + 5/5 = 8/10.

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sanjuroku — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:50:37 -0000

Work on your maths, that should 3/5 * 1/2 = 3/10

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Daughter — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:40:28 -0000

IIRC, it wasn't that children born overseas to American parent(s) weren't automatically citizens, but that the law read that the American parent(s) had to have resided at least 5 years in the U.S. after the age of 14 for the kids to be born citizens. Because President Obama's mother was 18 when she had him, she hadn't yet resided anywhere for 5 years after age 14. The law has since changed that the American parent(s) have to reside in the U.S. for at least five years at some point in their life.

However, even if Obama was born in Kenya, as the birthers allege, that wouldn't disqualify him from American citizenship. His mother would have had to be living in Kenya, not just visiting there, for that 5 year rule to apply, and since she was enrolled at the University of Hawaii both before and after Obama's birth, she obviously wasn't living in Kenya, even if she had for some crazy reason traveled to Kenya to give birth to him.

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CitizenE — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:31:32 -0000

This is an issue for which burlesque is the only riposte. We live in a stranger than fiction time to begin with, and not even the Onion could make up the Birther phenomenon.

In a way, it is unseemly for Maddow or Olberman to scoff; it's enough that both already blur their integrity a bit as reporters; they are lefties and so can be dismissed for their bias. But more because of their position even scoffing gives such inanity purchase.

Stewart, who is also obviously for the most part liberal, is not, however, bound to politicians, news casters, or media of any stripe: he is bound only to being funny, to lampooning--that's how he makes a living.

He is the kid who not only tells everyone that the Emperor is in his birthday suit, but throws cold water on the poor man to make him shrivel up a bit. The right got used to no one mentioning these things when they put their contract down on America, and still they believe they can prance around without everyone rubbernecking and guffawing when the boy repeats his message.

The media he pokes fun at are particularly susceptible because their schtick has been to make fools of themselves as hucksters, snake oilers, and rainmen, all the while taking their carnaval act as something more akin to what our society percieves as journalism than what it is--hallelujah bulls**t.

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Miles Ellison — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:23:26 -0000

Jon Stewart is one of the funniest men in America. He's a talented entertainer. But it's pathetic that there's more journalism on his show than on news networks.

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anna perez — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:58:43 -0000

Ummm, that would be mulatto.

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Sarcastro — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:57:26 -0000

It is pleasing to say "it has always been thus" and forget it, but it is risky to let something like this fester. Ya gotta ridicule it when it's still young.

Maybe the birthers don't quite run the show, but they seem to have a larger toehold in mainstream GOP politics than truthers did (Cynthia McKinney notwithstanding).

It's not where we are, it's where we are going that is worrisome.

Remember - this sort of thing is potential political currency beyond merely comforting bruised political egoes. Remember Swift Boaters? This is like political Swine Flu. Chances are it's nothing; nevertheless, it needs to be addressed before it has a chance to spread.

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anna perez — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:56:34 -0000

Ummm, that would be mulatto.

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Jingo Killah — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:47:50 -0000

Perhaps. I think that the 'dirty less-than-a-dozen' might still constitute a quorum, in the absence of any substantive Republican opposition to the idea. Can we name five Republicans of equal stature who have rejected the idea?

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Scott — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:39:18 -0000

Agreed. This is want happens when CNN gets a hold of the internet.

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Jen R — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:31:46 -0000

I think you're right. Of course, we've all known for years that only white, non-coastal, conservative Christians are "authentic" Americans.

I just liked how she had a birth certificate issued by the United States of America. How do I get one of those? Mine was only issued by the county in which I was born. Must be why I'm not an authentic American either.

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pizzaeagle — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:59:47 -0000

The Constitutional requirement for the Presidency is stricter than the requirement for Congress. One must be a 'natural-born' citizen, not just a citizen.

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brucds — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:42:59 -0000

Who wrote that crappy sentence...get your act together !

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brucds — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:42:13 -0000

This is why Jon Stewart, as I read recently in the wake - literally - of the late Uncle Walter, that Stewart is the most trusted newsman in America.

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klg19 — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:37:59 -0000

McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, but he was born on a Naval Air Station, which is technically American soil. This is why it wasn't an issue for him--although I recall certain lefty wingnuts who tried to make it so very early in the campaign. Bless their hearts--they gave UP.

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schism — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:34:16 -0000

As TNC alluded to, conspiracy theorists are only interested in facts and reality insofar as they corroborate their insane rantings. Anything that doesn't is simply shrieked at until it goes away.

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Black Magic Woman — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:13:03 -0000

So, the town hall where the woman questions Obama's birth place and discusses her WWII father/grandfather drives me batty. It is absolutely reminiscent of the crowds when McCain was campaigning - wondering if Obama was really Muslim and the "kill him" refrains at the Palin rallies.

I see all of this as essentially the same thing: questioning the legitimacy of a Black President because the questioners are racist. They feel ultimately that Black people aren't American, do not share their values and therefore Obama isn't American and does not share their values.

He can't be Christian - because that would mean he and I believe in the same God. He can't be born in the U.S. - because that would mean maybe he really does care about the US and honestly became President (unlike GWB the first time).

I'm really tired of the birthers and their crazy paranoia being aired as legitimate news. They really are the equivalent of people who don't believe we landed on the moon. They need to be treated as such.