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Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

scz — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:08:57 -0000

HAS JAY RESORTED TO A LIL WAYNE IMPERSONATION !??!?!

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cocolamala — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:33:06 -0000

the vocals were a little weak at first, but the video made a nice use of typography.

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Diego — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:54:41 -0000

For the people saying this song is trash...You guys are bugging, this is another classic Jay-Z song...What's going with peoples mind these days, think weezy f baby got you herbs brained washed..Bet all you guys love plies as well

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

odm — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:12:01 -0000

This song is dope as fuck. LOL @ Mos being better than Jay.

The 2nd verse has some really slick lines.

I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them,

I jack, I rob, I sin, Ahh man,

I'm Jackie Robinson,

except when I run base, I dodge the pen,

Lucky me, luckily, they didnt get me

Now when I bring the nets, I'm the black Branch Rickey,

From Brooklyn corners, burning branches of sticky

Spread love, Biggie, Brooklyn, hippie,

I pity the fool with jewels like Mr T,

with no history in my borough, they borrow,

with no intentions of returning tomorrow

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a-train — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:57:18 -0000

i can't speak to whether it's for the "suburbs" (whatever that means); but it's hard to think of another rapper whose phrasing is as consistently magical and surprising as jay-z's. it's like billie holiday or john coltrane or louis armstrong or keith richards or john lennon. jay's phrasing is not just in the pocket, it creates a pocket.

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

postaboy — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:00:25 -0000

Yall buggin, Jay came with it on this track. IMO this track coul've used LESS santogold, she was great on the hook but her flow sounded to punk rock. Yall don't know what yall want from the guy, he rappin too emo, too hood, etc. LOL can't please you guys. And I'm a bigger fan of Nas, I just realize that there is a lack of quality music and I appreciate the little I get. Basically this track is FIRE! Who more Brooklyn than Jay? c'mon now....

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

onzi — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:21:05 -0000

don't like this one? just switch tracks.

With so many different flows

This ones for this song

The next one i'll switch up

This one will get bit up

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

Matt — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:00:17 -0000

I like this track. I'm a big fan of Jay so anything he's on I'm usually down with. Jay's had better verses but he's also had worse. As far as the Kingdom Come Album and the Old Guy Vibe comment, I loved that album. Maybe it's cause I'm getting older my self but I don't know why everyone was knocking it. Probably because it was sandwiched in between 2 amazing albums, The Black Album and American Gangster. If you look at that album by itself though it's damn good.

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Ethan — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:14:29 -0000

Meh. I'll take SI's finest or Queens' finest over BK.

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bertie — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:08:42 -0000

Been lurking for a minutue but its time to come out of the shadows...this song was so so (minus the def). The beat and Santo went hard--Jay not so much. Out of a million subjects to talk about, he chose to spit about how he went from broke to crack to rap......again. At this point Jay is like the republican party...nothing new to say and no new ways to say it. And btw mos' song "Brooklyn" (with the Roys Ayers sample) is a better BK anthem but Jay is BK's finest.

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

Freddy — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:22:12 -0000

I am far from a hip hop expert. I don't have my "ear to the streets" or anything like that. But this song is solid. Jay has definitely made some garbage in his day, but he is on fire lately. He has a legitimate claim for being ONE OF the greatest of all time.

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dwhite10701 — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:51:05 -0000

As long as we're talking about Brooklyn hip-hop, everyone needs to pick up Heltah Skeltah's "D.I.R.T." Best album of the year. Easily.

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

DerekATC — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:59:15 -0000

You need to be playin that new clipse mixtape.

http://www.complex.com/blogs/2008/12/01/download-clipses-play-cloths-mixtape-now

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brett — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:58:58 -0000

this version of the original is the sh*t:

http://rcrdlbl.com/artists/Santogold/track/Shove_It_Switch_Remix

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

deep*3000 — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:33:18 -0000

Hilarious! What a bunch of whack comments. Shit's hot, son.

Meanwhile, cats on the Atlantic: "well, Jay Z's prowess... blah blah blah"

The Atlantic stays soft.

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

coomaraswamee — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:34:31 -0000

Isn't Brooklyn full of yuppies now? I mean I know authenticity is gone, but seriously Brooklyn goes about as hard as Westchester these days.

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Rah — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:11:20 -0000

I love watching Jay-Z mature and experiment. Jay is a different man than he was back in the day. . . reminds me of MJB's growth. At first it was difficult for fans to adjust to the person she had grown into, but in time we learned to appreciate it. Just like Andre 3000. Growth is good. LL comes to mind of someone who is struggling to adapt.

PS- As an at home mom in TN, its great to have a place to appreciate the great artform that is HIP HOP.

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dwayne — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:16:11 -0000

Jay Z is jy ridiculous (note: that's a good thing) and it's clear that some of the criticism he gets is cause folks just ain't hearing the music. He asked on Renegade, Do you listen to the music or do you just skim through it, and it's clear folks is skimming. Of all rap cats, Jay is one of few that has allowed his sound to mature and develop as he has.

And Mos, outside of Black Star, the cat is pure unfulfilled potential.

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marc — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:10:20 -0000

ty: Funny. I feel. No BS. I do the same thing . . . and I'm a black lawyer.

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trevor tb — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:06:39 -0000

I recognize he's one of the best of all time by any metric but his voice just fucking rubs me the wrong way. And I understand why people think he's the best, I really do, and I would never argue against that. Hell, I hate his voice and still love about a dozen of his tracks.

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ty — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:42:37 -0000

marc: Isn't that a great line? And it isn't even boast. He's the most accomplished MC period. That line's so good I want to say it when I've got my swagger on, and I'm a white lawyer.

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Jonathan — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:29:04 -0000

I still like this better than "History" and a good portion of Kingdom Come... though I wouldn't rate it as highly as some of the better American Gangster material. I like it about the same as "Jockin' Jay-Z", maybe a little less.

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

marc — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:14:00 -0000

The song is decent, his second verse is strong. Not sure why some people are using this song as a spring board though to start the career debate.

Nevertheless, I'm game. You can easily pull lines or versus, some full songs, less whole albums where another rap artist has proven to perhaps best Jay on lyrical prowess, or whatever other measuring stick you want to use. But looking at this objectively. Catalog versus catalog. Whole entire career versus another's. The quality, quantity and the versatility. It's really not that close. It reminds me of - "There's never been a ni$$a this good for this long, this hood or this pop, this hot or this strong . . ."

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

jason b. — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:45:10 -0000

TNC, I think you already know my opinion on the matter: http://walkasking.blogspot.com/2008/12/brooklyn-go-hard.html

With respect to "I really wanna like this, but it sounds a bit off at first," I think it's important to come to grips with the idea that this is how Jay raps now. That is, would we really want our favorite artists to stay the same? We must become aware that a release is markedly different in stylethan previous versions in order to make assessments beyond relativism.

Re: Brooklyn we go hard...

Neville — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:34:51 -0000

"Mos is BKs finest."

I only wish that were true. Black on Both Sides, yes. The New Danger and True Magic, not so much.

Haven't heard this yet, but I'm checking it out as soon as I get home.