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Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

socctty — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:58:49 -0000

I wonder if Biden has read "The Audacity of Hope." Biden seems like the kind of guy that would be open to what Obama says in there.

I think the "I intend to win" line is crucial. I suspect that it's hard to not just sit back and say to yourself, "God damn this is impressive. For Christ's sake, my middle name is Hussein and my dad left my mom when I was two." Obama can make you smile while he cuts your throat. He's aggressive but rarely overplays his hand. I like that.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

socctty — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:49:17 -0000

I think Biden could have done a much better job of refuting the plagiarism charge. He did say, albeit in a passing manner, that he failed to quote Neil Kinnock. But he didn't punch that allegation in the mouth like Obama has done with allegations against him.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

JoshA — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:09:34 -0000

Watching that, it sorta of reminded me of the distinction between the "just happy to be here" teams playing in championships, and the teams that are more like "yeah, guess its nice we're here, but we want to win."

Another point that he didn't say but sort of implied is that the moment speaks for itself.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

Breukelyne — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:05:29 -0000

I know very little about him, and maybe he's faking it, but ...

Biden just seems like a loyal, dependable kind of person.

I've always loved that he took up the cause of stopping violence against women via US Senate legislation 12 years ago. That says something about his character.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

Martin — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:03:25 -0000

They seem fine. A little awkward there in that first exchange behind the set in Denver! But after that, better.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

Devo — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:56:17 -0000

Awesome video -- thanks. And nice stand on the Palin fiasco (even if I can't quite follow you there). So I'll just ask (per the Lott post below), what about Chuck Cecil? When I was linebacker I had a clips of Cecil on the inside of my locker. He was smaller. And you might argue he hit *harder.*

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

carole — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:06:30 -0000

I think he was wise to do what he did. He has to be President to all Americans if he wins. In fact, if he had campaigned any other way, he would not be the nominee.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

Hassan — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:01:15 -0000

TNC,

Great point, this is all about the "W". Although I am not gonna buy the whole he is my favorite guy ---we like each other so much crap. They have system that works thats all I will say. Biden is the man I would want by my side irrespective of personal differences.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

lulu — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:53:56 -0000

Biden and Obama are genuine people. You can see it when they interact. You can see it on the faces of their families. They are not perfect--but to see them together is quite enjoyable!

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

Jake — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:20:29 -0000

It was a great interview.

Biden GETS IT. He is genuinely excited to be a part of the campaign, and Obama's genuinely happy to have him on board. These two together are greater than the sum of their parts.

You can't fake that kind of chemistry. By comparison, I suspect McCain and Palin will seek to avoid appearing on TV next to one another whenever possible. They look awkward on the cover of People, for Chrissakes. And what's McCain going to do, put his hand on her knee?

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

Jonah — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:20:25 -0000

I love the Obama/Biden chemistry. Did anybody else see his reaction during Michelle's speech last week when she mentioned his name? It was this hilarious mock-surprised look that basically made me fall in love with the ticket. I wish I could find a video clip of it. (It was CNN, I think.)

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

livius — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:53:45 -0000

I love that casually tossed off "Boss, here we go. We may have our first difference here." from Biden.

I suspect the end of his thought didn't quite match the beginning (he didn't actually say anything Obama would disagree with), but to see the older white guy call the younger black guy "Boss" in a totally uncontrived way, bespeaks a genuinely comfortable rapport and made me smile.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

JRG — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:29:20 -0000

Sorry about all those posts!

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

JRG — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:27:07 -0000

Along these lines, the Post has kind of a sweet story today about the Biden/Obama "chemistry".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/31/AR2008083101954.html

Relevant to the "I intend to win" sentence is this informal talk to his headquarters staff after winning the primaries. What I liked was his statement near the end re having to work even harder now because people had put their faith in him and, if he were to lose, the important changes needed wouldn't happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnhmByYxEIo

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

renegademom3 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:22:55 -0000

why is this race so close.

and, btw, sarah palin IS a barracuda, who has thrown both her daughter AND John McCain under the bus.

I don't care about the McCain campaign, but as a mother, her treatment of her daughter turns my stomach.

She deserves whatever she gets.

Sound vindictive? Sound judgmental?

Women all over the country are thinking the same things.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

KWiz — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:06:00 -0000

"When you've got 38 million people watching you, what's more important--Assuaging the concerns of the black left or trying to put a dagger in the McCain campaign?Way too logical, makes too much sense."

This makes way too much sense. It's entirely too logical. It's beautiful. Thank you.

Re: Biden\Obama on 60 Minutes

ll3 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:59:54 -0000

I think you mean, "if you missed it..."

I've seen a number of accounts of their relationship. Sounds like it is just as it should be.